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An alien – 'no matter how many tentacles it has' – could have a soul, says pope's astronomer
Aliens might have souls and could choose to be baptised if humans ever met them, a Vatican scientist(USAHUHUSAHUSHUSA) said today. The official also dismissed intelligent design as "bad theology" that had been "hijacked" by American creationist fundamentalists.
Guy Consolmagno, who is one of the pope's astronomers, said he would be "delighted" if intelligent life was found among the stars. "But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it – when you add them up it's probably not a practical question."
Speaking ahead of a talk at the British Science Festival in Birmingham tomorrow, he said that the traditional definition of a soul was to have intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions. "Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul." Would he baptise an alien? "Only if they asked."
Consolmagno, who became interested in science through reading science fiction, said that the Vatican was well aware of the latest goings-on in scientific research. "You'd be surprised," he said.
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, keeps the senior cardinals and the pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments. Responding to Hawking's recent comments that the laws of physics removed the need for God, Consolmagno said: "Steven Hawking is a brilliant physicist and when it comes to theology I can say he's a brilliant physicist."
Consolmagno curates the pope's meteorite collection and is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican's observatory. He dismissed the ideas of intelligent design – a pseudoscientific version of creationism. "The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it didn't originally mean at all. It's another form of the God of the gaps. It's bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning."
Consolmagno's comments came as the pope made his own remarks about science this morning at St Mary's University College in Twickenham. Speaking to pupils, he encouraged them to look at the bigger picture, over and above the subjects they studied. "The world needs good scientists, but a scientific outlook becomes dangerously narrow if it ignores the religious or ethical dimension of life, just as religion becomes narrow if it rejects the legitimate contribution of science to our understanding of the world," he said. "We need good historians and philosophers and economists, but if the account they give of human life within their particular field is too narrowly focused, they can lead us seriously astray."
The pope's astronomer said the Vatican was keen on science and admitted that the church had got it "spectacularly wrong" over its treatment of the 17th century astronomer Galileo Galilei. Galileo confirmed that the Earth went around the sun – and not the other way around – and was charged with heresy in 1633. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest in Tuscany. Only in 1992 did Pope John Paul admit that the church's treatment of Galileo had been a mistake.
Consolmagno said it was a "complete coincidence" that he was speaking at the British Science Festival at the same time as the papal visit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/17/pope-astronomer-baptise- aliens
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a Vatican scientist
HUAHUAHAUHAUHAUAHUAHAUHAUHAUAHUAHAUHAUAHUAH comofas isso?
PS: Pra quem não leu a Bíblia o possivelmente nem sabe do que essa tal religião se trata, um resumo da Biblia pra vossa senhoria poder comentar o tópico.
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The Root Of All Evil
Nossa kra, como tu tá chato ultimamente. Esse negócio de ficar falando de religião sem fundamento nenhum nem como piada serve mais.
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Eu acho legal. Continue assim,vô!
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GOREFESTA
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'no matter how many tentacles it has' – could have a soul
Hmm
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Aliens might have souls and could choose to be baptised if humans ever met them
Isso não pode ser sério, vão querer catequizar até os alienígenas agora, tenho pena de uma invasão terrestre a qualquer planeta.
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, keeps the senior cardinals and the pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments.
The Pontifical Academy of Sciences, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, keeps the senior cardinals and the pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments. Responding to Hawking's recent comments that the laws of physics removed the need for God, Consolmagno said: "Steven Hawking is a brilliant physicist and when it comes to theology I can say he's a brilliant physicist."
E ainda falam mal dos ateus ou agnósticos.
"The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it didn't originally mean at all. It's another form of the God of the gaps. It's bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning."
Novo conselho de Nicéia urgente!
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Acho digno.
Continue assim,vô!
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Machine Gun Man
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"But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it – when you add them up it's probably not a practical question."
E desde quando isso é levado em consideração? haha
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Eu acho legal. Continue assim,vô!
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The Root Of All Evil
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Bizet
Valeu, queridos, boto tudo em vocês!
^^
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com tanta coisa acontecendo alguem vai mesmo se importa se um alien for batizado?
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faith_girl
É né esse mundo ta uma barbaridade.
Assalto pra todo lado, o planeta aquecendo, guerras... Ninguem vai ligar se um alien aparecer de repente ai na terra e for batizado no colo de alguém.
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eu batizaria um alien também
mas o tncv é hindu
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The Root Of All Evil
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Dogs2
Evangélicos também se batizam.
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The Root Of All Evil
editei antes \o\
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faith_girl
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Trololo
Não.
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Minow
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Agora eu posso dizer que a pretensão da Igreja Católica tem dimensões universais.
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Minow
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Obs:
faith_girl, quero te possuir.
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Dogs2
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Minow
seria um caso de possessão demoníaca
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The Root Of All Evil
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Minow
Agora eu posso dizer que a pretensão da Igreja Católica tem dimensões universais.
Só agora?Não conhecia a Igreja Universal não? :P
edit: fail meu.
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I like big butts and I cannot lie, you other brothers can't deny.
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